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to business europe's largest economy germany has downgraded the south look for economic growth for this other next year with industrial production slowing the bonus bag sees g.d.p. to grow point seven percent rather than the previously forecast one percent two thousand and thirteen growth will be four times slower than anticipated hears. from deutsche bank research two factors are responsible for the slowdown of the german economy the one for factory slowdown of x. product and the other is we can westmont evil ottman the west wonders declining for the last five quarters for the year two thousand and thirteen we expect export contribution of net exports of this negative to g.d.p. but what is the realty stable this consumption due to the good labor market situation and relatively high income growth compared to the previous years so the

german economy should grow by slightly more than than the euro and the next year and early i talked to agnes campbell from london capital group he says the downgrade is not a surprise and it could have political consequences. we saw the european central bank yesterday they downgraded their for cost of the euro zone expecting the eurozone economy to contrive throughout the whole of next year we've seen downgrades to the u.k. and growth for two thousand and thirteen and of course the been this buying of. really more than nothing else to come in line with other forecasters in downgrading germans the german economy's growth prospects as well and let's face it there is still a lot of austerity in the eurozone across. the periphery as well as those nations such as germany merkel pounds trim.

austerity in germany in two thousand and thirteen and that's ahead of the election towards the end of yes is quite a risk to take. so really it doesn't come as a huge surprise now speaking of this election industrial production has been dropping and it seems the recession is inevitable and least in the fourth quarter of this year now do you think this might impede angela merkel's chances and. then they would certainly hope going to. do her any favors i think for german electorate the most important thing is that germany is not just writing a check to the likes of greece spain portugal ireland those countries that have been bailed out of spain hasn't formally been bailed out but for those countries that have requested for bell outs from the eurozone. the fact that she has

refrained from sort of our rights writing off of that series of that is that's the key. issue for. voters at the moment she hasn't done yet so. she has the. advantage but as mentioned getting calls these these economic numbers certainly no good. cause much good now better numbers have been announced for two thousand and fourteen forecast is that growth will come back to one point nine percent how do you see that happening and why would that happen well i think it's quite ambitious and certainly if you look at the growth forecast for other countries in the eurozone as well in the u.k. various forecasters thinking that the u.k. could grow as much as two percent in two thousand and fourteen say one point nine percent in germany looks ambitious as well. let's not forget and

underestimate the german economy of course it is the biggest in the eurozone and one of the biggest in the world and it is. less reliant ome it's trading partners within the eurozone a. vast proportion or at least a growing proportion of his exports now again beyond the eurozone again they go to emerging markets like china in particular is a key export for germany so if the chinese economy remains strong and manages to avoid this way down in two thousand and thirteen two thousand and fourteen then yes potentially you could see the economy grow as much as that in two thousand and fourteen but it's still as i say it's quite an ambitious estimate. of the markets the u.s. markets are mixed with the dow inspired by the latest unemployment figures jobless

rate fell again seven point seven percent tech shares however on drag european markets and the session mixed to london was up slightly led by russia's polymath so up two percent on the higher called and russia managed a positive and to the. weak with the very point three percent however gas probably shares continue to decline on friday as a consortium of vicious stream pipeline finally started the project brings together europe's biggest energy giants to pump gas directly to the continent but comes with a big price tag of more than twenty billion dollars but in the course reports from the official launch of. the groundbreaking ceremony was attended by president putin and the hands of leading era p. an energy companies involved in the project now this pipeline plans to transport russian natural gas to central and south in europe diversifying gas routes away from transit countries in particular ukraine and now the points will go from

russia's black sea coast to bulgaria and that will be split into two bringing russian natural gas directly to european consumers the first supplies are scheduled for the end of two thousand and fifteen yet many in europe question whether this project is needed due to falling demand for natural gas in europe and high costs of construction sound doubt that twenty billion dollars project is necessary however gas from spark now sees it differently when you look at policy i think there's a good likelihood that the demand for gas will grow because we have to replace all sources of energy anyway the import of natural gas interest on europe and so on your has to grow and therefore i think this is a very very important project meanwhile gazprom c.e.o. aleksei miller says that the south stream pipeline is the biggest infrastructure project in europe and all the pipelines capacity has already been signed off in several contracts once again proving that there is demand for this pipeline on the

market from business he talks to chast freeman former us ambassador to saudi arabia about the flaring conflicts in the middle east have a nice week. yet . in this remote siberian village people still sing the songs which russians sang in the middle ages and they cherish the ancient rituals practiced by the will set up church before the seventeenth century the old believers here is sign bierria are a conservative community they're known as the simi skeer a word which refers to family. the day believe me there yet again i feel.

i now i'm the first at doing that. i. people here are happy to show their way of life to tourists and teach them how to dance in the local star. use of prayer and the girl needs to watch her legs don't go up too much during the dance she must be a modest. seventeen year old nanda is from the same village she now studies in the city and dances at a club. she puts on her costume and the traditional amber necklace only when she comes to visit her grandmother. katherine actually. no. i didn't ask on time for her dad says because i want to keep up to date with this morning world but still i would like to have camp my brain around how my ancestors

layered and this is my treasure their attachment to the church brought not just and sisters to this remote glen and east deflate by call more than two hundred fifty years ago they were exiled in persecuted for not. green to the orthodox who forms introduced in washington the sixteen hundreds they wanted to maintain their time honored rituals the old believers still bolland cross themselves with two fingers not with three as they do in modern orthodox churches in russia and never knew when praying but this fall they say he says it's not so much the rituals they cherish as the moral principles he does not approve of what knowledge is doing as a critic but old to believe a woman must never show her naked legs and because this thing started to spoil during the soviet union. was more and more young people leaving for big cities this year is the all believers culture could be imperiled nowadays young people prefer

urban life to devoting their life to agriculture but it's not necessary to leave the inside israel to remember that and try to keep their. plans to continue her studies abroad the grandmother says wherever she goes as long as the queues are fresh in her memory so is the quick turkey. baster chess freeman former u.s. assistant secretary of defense also a former years and messenger to saudi arabia it's great to have you with us here today it's a privilege all right so operation pillar of cloud that israel has carried out in

gaza is over now both israel and hamas are claiming victory who do you think is the winner i don't think israel is the winner except in one sense and that is demonstrated that they are going. missile defense system will work otherwise in the arena of public opinion internationally in the region it lost heavily. nobody likes to see advanced military aircraft bombing civilian populations which is what was happening. and of course this energized egypt diplomatically in a new way and it generated a lot of support for the palestinians in gaza. despite the fact that many of the governments that came to visit sent their foreign ministers there to gaza for example don't like the mass at all in fact they fear it so it clearly strengthened the. mats both in the palestinian territories and in the arab world politically

and i think that's a victory for a mass and a defeat for israel but israel invokes the right to defend itself against terrorism and this is a claim backed by countries such as united states and germany you certainly don't deny israel this right to certainly not and but that doesn't mean that you can take preemptive attack action to attack others especially civilians the fact that one side commits occasional acts of terrorism does not justify state terrorism and in this case there was no rocket far of any consequence from the gaza strip into israel prior to israel's inauguration of military raid that killed the military leader of amounts hamas is an organization that doesn't have much of a military capacity many people actually say that israel back in two thousand and

eight two thousand and nine and also this time. it really wanted to could have squeezed hamas out of palestine but it didn't do so why. well i think israel did attempt very to use violence in the earlier cast lead operation it did there was at the very end of two thousand and eight as there was a change of administrations going on in washington it's interesting this war also happened around me with election time exactly but what israel failed and the reason it failed is that the strategy is wrong you cannot bomb people into peaceful coexistence it just does not work you spoke about their actions it was right after the presidential election in the united states right before the elections in israel . what does it suggest to you is the timing important or was it a coincidence well i suspect that the timing in this case was dictated by the israeli election. it's very popular in israel to kill lots of palestinians in gaza

. and have mass is seen as a monster and so war against amounts when vote you know i want to talk about the wording of the operation pillar of cloud obviously referring to the bible and back in the bible. it was the pillar of cloud who let the israelis through it beat out of egypt and save them from the sorrow how much the torah narrative actually dominate the mindset of israeli war planners well the religious element in both in the israeli armed forces largely subtle are driven. not orthodox jews many of whom don't want to serve in the military refused to do so but the religious complection of the israeli defense forces is steadily increased so religion is now very much bound up with its operations of the language of some rabbis during cast lead was simply hair raising in terms of evoking old testament images of genocide

against non jews. i think also it's true that this use of language reflects the fact that the israeli palestinian struggle which began as a sort of struggle between two competing nationalisms became a struggle between arabs and israelis has now become a struggle between jews and muslims in the western media though the operation pillar of cloud was renamed pillar of defense quite suppose it sounds less alarming defense is a good thing isn't it. attacking people behind a cloud perhaps maybe isn't. evoking memories of old testament violence raises questions perhaps in the broader world. so this is the sort of typical example of what the israelis call. which is control of

narrative. and propaganda and they do it very well in two thousand and nine you were nominated to lead the national intelligence council in president obama's administration you declined. due to pressure what you've called the israeli lobby in the united states you precise later on that it's actually more correct to call it the likud lobby or the lobby of the right wing is row what exactly do you mean by that definition well i think if you look at the american jewish community which from which the activists in the israel lobby are drawn there's a large passive support for israel among christian fundamentalists but they are not active generally speaking the activists come from a very limited segment about four percent of the american jewish community and these are people who are strong supporters of the extreme right wing in israel there's another very interesting instance that you describe i'm going to read out

a quote of yours you were being told by a senior israeli official thank you for what you did for israel what job in president bush administration do you want how exactly does that work i mean can a foreign power actually influence staffing of national security positions in the us government well when this man who i had considered a friend and rather admired tactlessly made that offer to me i thought he could deliver it. i thought he was making a real offer and i was enraged. as somebody as an american patriot i don't like the idea that any foreign country even one close to us should be able to dictate our decisions about our internal politics was it a bluff or could he really do i think he might have been able to deliver and i didn't take him up on it for obvious reasons i thought it was a despicable but that's kind of story it is a little scary yes. but you see. there is again

a narrative which is that israeli interests and american interests are identical israeli values and american values are identical neither is true if you examine it but that israeli narrative would be nothing without american backing yes america is a wonderful echo chamber for israel because our relations are so intimate and we are. so much in contact with each other and the american media is so. manageable to spreading. the israeli line the narrative. and the american media are enormously interview influential internationally and so this takes what might be a rather small voice from israel and magnifies it and spreads it everywhere and israel is after all a very small country that is surrounded by enemies whether it made those enemies itself or whether it's simply. there simply there is beside the point israel is in

a difficult position it uses everything it can and. it can use to defend itself and this is one of the means of defense a very strong one what exactly are the priorities of the lobby in the united states and how much power do they actually wield over the us media well i think it's less the media than the congress. but ultimately the media also depend upon advertising and congress works the fuel of our progress i'm sorry to say it's campaign contributions which is another way of saying our politics is pretty corrupt. so you can vote by vote. the fuel for our media is advertising and advertising can be withheld or granted depending on what you say you know what i always wondered how come that our blog is not so prevalent in the arab states could probably find its pretty much anything they wanted. interesting question

first of all i don't think there is an arab lobby i think it is the fiction of the israel lobby is imagination or perhaps a sort of construct they've created because you need to have an enemy so why isn't there an arab well there's lots of reasons for that we have significant arab american population which potentially could produce a lobby but it's divided as the arabs themselves are so there's no domestic base that could focus the energy of this voting bloc in one direction and second turning to the arab states yes the the gulf arabs have plenty of money but they also have no understanding of the importance of institutions. as opposed to people their own politics is very personalized their own societies don't in many cases rest on institutional foundations. they don't have

a habit of sustained effort on anything they are more likely to do something short term they like the sprint rather than the marathon that is required in this arena. and probably many of them consider it improper. to in effect buy votes. and i happen to agree with them but. they are behind the times unfortunately everyone else is doing it so you don't have the domestic base and you don't have the foreign support and i might say that the gulf arabs like other arabs they don't like the arab americans who are not mainly from the gulf go for emigrate there are no saudi americans to speak of there are no pottery americans to speak of their no amorality americans to speak of when they come to study the states and then go back on the study and they maybe have a vacation home and they enjoy the united states as a visitor but they don't. emigrate to europe cracked with throwing in two thousand

and nine and not taking a position you know i don't know i'm i didn't want to go back into the government i had given thirty years of my life to public service i thought that was plenty i was very reluctant to do that job and when i was publicly attacked in the way i was it became apparent that i couldn't do the job so the decision to withdraw it was simply a matter of logic and i don't regret it at all i have a good life a better life than i would if i were doing that i think i wouldn't consider taking another position in the government in the future no no i think i'd let somebody younger have a chance but. no i can't think of any position i would really like to do at this stage in part because at the moment our government is pretty dysfunctional it's not making any sensible decisions and it seems to find it very hard to do that we can't even pass a budget jobs we can't even address our fiscal imbalance we don't address any of

our fundamental questions of foreign policy we continue to do more of the same in this circumstance the chance that one individual could make a real difference is not very great and i'm i'm happy cultivating my garden. that's your family thank you very much for this interview my pleasure.

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